Q&A With Sasha Grey
BY SCOTT MACAULAY
SASHA GREY IN THE GIRLFRIEND EXPERIENCE. PHOTO COURTESY OF MAGNOLIA PICTURES.
If you take Steven Soderbergh out of the
equation, what interested you in doing this
movie?
Well you just answered your own
question. [laughs] Had somebody else, maybe
an independent filmmaker who didn’t have
a large resume or decent distribution, approached me and said, “This is a film about
an escort,” I probably would have said no because for me playing a sex worker in a film
could potentially have been way too easy.
Steven could have gotten me buck-naked and
every other scene could have been a sex scene.
But knowing his films, I knew that would not
be the case. If you know his films, it’s an opportunity you’d be stupid to miss.
Every era seems to have its own movies
about prostitutes. Where do you see your
character fitting into this tradition?
I asked
Steven that very question: “Should I watch
any films that relate to this subject matter?”
He said, “The only films I want you to watch
are [Godard’s] Vivre sa vie and Pierrot le fou,”
so I went back and rewatched those several
times. Obviously there is no prostitution in
Pierrot le fou, but [he wanted me to watch that
film] just for the dynamic between the couple,
and to try to carry that energy to the vibe between Chris and Chelsea, or maybe Chelsea
and her clients.
Did you do any other kind of research for
the part?
Luckily I had the chance to meet
two escorts two days before I shot the film.
What did you get from them?
One of them
was very, very paranoid — she doesn’t use her
own cell phone, and she doesn’t take her ID
with her when she is working. I thought that
was really funny and bizarre, and Steven and
I applied it to the character. So in the film you
see her buying a prepaid cell phone.
Did she explain that as a business necessity
or was she —
No, she was just paranoid. She
doesn’t want to get caught, or if she does get
caught, she doesn’t want any of her information with her.
What was it like working with Soderbergh
and his style of structured improvisation?
We had scene outlines and we’d get on set, and
Steven would say, “You might want to hit these
three topics” and that’s that.The improv was really interesting because everyone in the film was
a non-actor — I think I was the only person
with acting experience in the film. I love improv so it was fun but it was also really challenging because I was working with people
who didn’t necessarily know how to keep that
momentum going during a scene. But that was
also the beauty of it because there would be odd
moments that people with training would have
been very self-conscious about. They might
have stopped themselves from saying or doing
something that could have made the film.
As an adult actress your image is one of being very self-aware. The character in the
movie seems much less so. How did you feel
about playing a sex worker who presents
herself very differently than you in real life
do?
I don’t know how this is going to come
out, but I would have to say that a lot of antipornography people who judge me and say,
“She doesn’t know what she is doing, she is
going to regret everything, how can a 19, 20,
21-year-old woman be so sure and knowledgeable about her sexuality?” — I would
apply that generally ignorant way of thinking
to this character. She thinks she’s in complete
control of her life but she is much more into
her vanity than she is the real world and being
a reflective, introspective person.
Where did your interest in art cinema come
from?
When I was about 12 I saw Fahrenheit
451, Truffaut’s only American film, and I remember being so fascinated by it, not really
understanding it, but feeling a hunger and a
need and a want to see more films like that.
Then I was in a group theater acting class in
Sacramento and my theater teacher would
tell us to watch at least one film per week. He
would give me a list and I would go to Tower
and I’d try to find those films. Not surprisingly,
it was very hard to find some of those titles.
My Big Fat Greek Wedding is what you’d find in
the independent film section at the Sacramento Blockbuster. Often I would drive to San
Francisco to see films that would play one-off
nights at a small arthouse theater. Yeah, Sacramento just sucked for arthouse films!
Was it a solitary thing or did you know people who had the same tastes?
It was pretty
solitary. I would try and get these films and
my friends would fall asleep. [They’d say],
“This is too long. We can watch two movies
in the time that we could watch this one.” So
it was really just me and sometimes my brother and sister. I also have to thank Criterion for
feeding my beast. They definitely [assemble]
a lot of information in one condensed place.
What are you watching right now?
My friend
just bought me a Japanese Blu-ray of Sukiyaki
Western Django, so I’m pretty excited about
that. I revisited THX 1138 the other night, and
I think [George] Lucas went back and added
digital monkeys towards the end, which kind
of pissed me off because I think the simplicity
of that film is what made it so beautiful.
Do you see everything you do as part of one
continuum of work, or are the adult work,
music and now mainstream film entirely
different ambitions?
I don’t see a division
between anything I do. A lot of people say
they have “a job,” “a career,” but for me it’s
all-inclusive; there is no light switch that goes
off at the end of the night. It’s more than a
career for me; it’s my life. Adult films, music
and mainstream — I don’t put a boundary between any of those things.
If you are looking at the world of porn with
an art-cinema eye, is there anything interesting right now?
That’s kind of a biased question
for me to answer because, I’m going to be honest: I don’t watch a lot of porn anymore. And
the stuff I do watch is [made by] the people I
would go have a drink with or hang out with.
Kimberly Kane, right now, that’s somebody
who I see who is challenging the way things
are done. Her smut is artistic and horny at the
same time. Andrew Blake will never fade away.
He’s obviously more soft-core, and he still
shoots on film, which I love.
Porn has always been ahead of the rest of
the entertainment business when it comes
to the adoption of new technologies. Where
do you see the business going in this time of
technological change?
The adult industry
is going through a drastic change just like
the music industry did. I think in this next
year-and-a-half to two years, a lot of crappy
companies that would just throw shit on the
wall and think it is going to stick will go away,
and that’s a good thing. Gone are the days of
just getting a girl and a camera and shooting
a movie and making money off of it. You’re
really going to have to try and make a good
quality product because people aren’t paying
for a crappy product anymore. There is too
much free stuff out there.
Anything else you’d like people to know
about you and the movie?
No. I like to leave it to people’s imagination.
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